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myc6vette
6/29/2007 10:03:21 AM
I have a Corvette 2006 c6. I was challenged by an 06 Viper Srt10 Convertible. Can I beat him? he wants to put 200$ on it...Stock for Stock?
riley
6/29/2007 11:36:58 AM
If you have a Z06 then it's a drivers game. If not then he most likely gets your two hundred bucks. 
Lee Willis
6/29/2007 1:54:49 PM
If you have a standard 'vette you don't really have much chance, unless you can get a NOS kit and a good tune prior to the race.  If you have a Z06 and he's not a better driver than you it is a toss-up: the ZO6 is a bit faster: will win about 60 out of 100 races but that's hardly a sure thing
C3 Starship
6/29/2007 5:35:11 PM
Tell him you won't waste your time, and besides,
ya don't really need the $200.
Walk away and leave him wondering.
Ya just beat him mentally, you saved on gas, and ya still have your $200.
chargedvette02
6/29/2007 11:55:06 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lee Willis

If you have a standard 'vette you don't really have much chance, unless you can get a NOS kit and a good tune prior to the race.  If you have a Z06 and he's not a better driver than you it is a toss-up: the ZO6 is a bit faster: will win about 60 out of 100 races but that's hardly a sure thing

 
+1
Black86vette
7/1/2007 11:36:01 AM
quote:

ORIGINAL: C3 Starship

Tell him you won't waste your time, and besides,
ya don't really need the $200.
Walk away and leave him wondering.
Ya just beat him mentally, you saved on gas, and ya still have your $200.

 
 
Id take that bet and LOOSE just to prove that I was a man. Most competitioin sports takes ONE ball. Racing takes TWO!
 
SNAKE Kill that be-damned snake! Im behind you 110% even "if" you get your @$$ smoked.
 
Oh we lost 200 dollars **hiccup** .....to a lame viper....feel pretty good cuz we still took a risk
Lee Willis
7/1/2007 2:47:38 PM
Wow,  different world you live in.  I cannot recall ever accepting a race I was certain I would lose and I don't see how taking a challenge you know you will lose makes you any more or less of a ma" (or woman).  Throwing away even just $200 seems to me to prove nothing more than that cliche adage, "A fool and his money are soon parted."
 
 
C3 Starship
7/1/2007 5:31:40 PM
 Just send me the $200.  I'm sure I can find a use for it on the "Starship".
Better on a ratty ol' Vette, than a "Clown Shoe".
Lee Willis
7/1/2007 6:30:47 PM
Good idea.  Goes to a good cause, too.
chargedvette02
7/1/2007 7:53:07 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: C3 Starship

 Just send me the $200.  I'm sure I can find a use for it on the "Starship".
Better on a ratty ol' Vette, than a "Clown Shoe".

 
 
Ur using my clown shoe quote hahahahah unless you got it somewhere else.  I have always said they look like clown shoes and I think I have posted it a few times.
chargedvette02
7/1/2007 7:56:08 PM
quote:

ORIGINAL: Lee Willis

Wow,  different world you live in.  I cannot recall ever accepting a race I was certain I would lose and I don't see how taking a challenge you know you will lose makes you any more or less of a ma" (or woman).  Throwing away even just $200 seems to me to prove nothing more than that cliche adage, "A fool and his money are soon parted."



 
Hey Lee, I challenged my buddy to a race. The one with the R6 that I was sure I would lose to. Ended up beating him, so a risk can pay off sometimes. You can never be sure who is going to win, thats why you run em. A stock C6 can beat a viper; the viper driver just has to be really crappy and the vette driver has to be god like.
Lee Willis
7/4/2007 8:52:31 AM
Great.  When I say I never take a race I know I'd lose I'm talking about something like: I turned down running against a Buick Grand National that I know does low 9s and has done an 8.96.  I'd lose that: faster car with a seriously experienced driver. 

I wouldn't be certain of losing a race in a stock Vette against a stock Viper -- I might take the race, depending something on the particular Viper, and it would depend on the driver.  I often really try to get in the other driver's head.  Older guys, serious and cool, are trouble.  If the driver is hot headed or excitable etc., I'd take the race and then get him really pissed off ahead of tim: alkl he has to do is dump the clutch to show off at the start and I've won.  
 
By the way, congrats on your win.  It must have been fun.
ljg
7/4/2007 4:56:11 PM
If you got a Z06 accept, if ya don't walk away.
Lee Willis
7/4/2007 6:46:07 PM
I always weigh it probabilistically -- out of 100 races how many would one car win against the other? Two even cars, its 50 out of 100 for each.  In a Viper SRT-ZO6 match would be close.  I'd expect the ZO6 to win about 66-70 times out of 100, but the Viper has a good chance: in most objective comparison tests the ZO6 has about a .2 to .3 second and 3 mph advantage in the quarter: at 120 mph trap speeds, .25 second is a 3 length advantage, good but not so good that a great versus bad launch or missed shift wouldn't lose the day. 
 
The driver and his attitude has a lot to do with it, too: I know several idiots who would loose probably 95 times out of 100 in a Viper against a standard C6.  But I know a few who can make up the 20% difference in that Viper-ZO6 match, winning in the Viper against that ZO6 half the time.    So I'm always a bit careful, particularly since I don't rate myself as too good of a driver any more-- a bit old with slower relfexes, plus I love the car too much to really "manhandle" it.  That's why my son is always .2-.3 seconds quicker in the quarter than I am: he's done a 10.0 in my vette and a non-sanctioned 9 second run.  I've never done better than 10.2s. 
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