Since i bought my 98 a month ago, ive had 4 races:
I raced a 84 mustang, a 91 mustang, a 03 supercharged silverado, and a 71 nova.
I won them all except for the one against the 71 nova.. pulled into a 7-11 and hetold me he had about 600hp, which i believe because he beat me by 5 cars lol


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Nice!

Not surprising you won against the two Mustangs or the big pickup, but the Nova . . .

There aren't too many left out on the street that aren't fast. Except for the very rare SS fuelies, there is no reason to even keep one around except: they are very light and they have a big engine bay. Thus, when you see one well preserved on the street, its probably not even close to stock.

Case in point is one very mean 64 Nova (actually, a mere "chevy II) around here. Not even a reall coupe - B-pillar 2 door sedan, refrigerator white paint a bit faded, bench seats upholstered with somthing like burlap. Doggie bowl hubcaps and a column mounted auto shifter, and an AM radio!. the only clues are the strangely wide rear tires and the dual 4 inch exhausts. Its got big mufflers so it even idles quietly.
Under the hood, it has aJudd V-10 or something, ten liter offshore racing engine with a massive, custom machined, two-belt drive pulley set anda Procharger F series supercharger-1100 RWHP.

ORIGINAL: Lee Willis

Not surprising you won against the two Mustangs or the big pickup, but the Nova . . .

There aren't too many left out on the street that aren't fast. Except for the very rare SS fuelies, there is no reason to even keep one around except: they are very light and they have a big engine bay. Thus, when you see one well preserved on the street, its probably not even close to stock.

Case in point is one very mean 64 Nova (actually, a mere "chevy II) around here. Not even a reall coupe - B-pillar 2 door sedan, refrigerator white paint a bit faded, bench seats upholstered with somthing like burlap. Doggie bowl hubcaps and a column mounted auto shifter, and an AM radio!. the only clues are the strangely wide rear tires and the dual 4 inch exhausts. Its got big mufflers so it even idles quietly.
Under the hood, it has aJudd V-10 or something, ten liter offshore racing engine with a massive, custom machined, two-belt drive pulley set anda Procharger F series supercharger-1100 RWHP.


Are they lighter than a vette and what do you think that one would run in the 1/4?

Lighter? the Nova I'm talking about weighs about 3300 pounds even with that enormous offshore boat engine in it. With an LS1 they prbably weigh about 2800 pounds.

1/4 mile? I think stock ('67 Nova SS 327 fuelie, 275 HP rating) probably did about 15 in the quarter.
the one I'm talking about (3200 lbs, 1100 RWHP) is probably capable of only tens on its hard, "retro" street tires but maybe eights with slicks and a good launch.
Probably the 600 HP of the car you met was a slight exaggeration -- say it was 525 HP, or about 450 RWHP. Then it probably does low 11s.
On the other hand, a car that wins against a car like yours by five lengths in the quarter mile (I don't know how long your race was) would be doing about 12.5 - 12.7 in the quarter which is about 365 RWHP in a 3200 lb car -- what a big block 454 chevy Nova might weigh.

ORIGINAL: Lee Willis

Lighter? the Nova I'm talking about weighs about 3300 pounds even with that enormous offshore boat engine in it. With an LS1 they prbably weigh about 2800 pounds.

1/4 mile? I think stock ('67 Nova SS 327 fuelie, 275 HP rating) probably did about 15 in the quarter.
the one I'm talking about (3200 lbs, 1100 RWHP) is probably capable of only tens on its hard, "retro" street tires but maybe eights with slicks and a good launch.
Probably the 600 HP of the car you met was a slight exaggeration -- say it was 525 HP, or about 450 RWHP. Then it probably does low 11s.
On the other hand, a car that wins against a car like yours by five lengths in the quarter mile (I don't know how long your race was) would be doing about 12.5 - 12.7 in the quarter which is about 365 RWHP in a 3200 lb car -- what a big block 454 chevy Nova might weigh.


Still sounds like a really cool car!

I love "Sleepers". ;)
Did ya know that "Nova", in spanish, means "no go"? :D

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I love "Sleepers". ;)
Did ya know that "Nova", in spanish, means "no go"? :D


Lol

600 hp!!!!!!! are you serious

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600 hp!!!!!!! are you serious


hes cereal!

600 HP - very do-able, there are streetable cars running around central Carolinas, where I live, with 900+ Hp at the rear wheels. I assume cars like that exist just about everywhere. They aren't very civilized, and not really "daily driveable" -- most in fact are not really easy to drive: the driver has to stay very alert and be careful. And there aren't that many -- probably onlyone or two dozen in the area of maybe4 million population I'm aware of in central NC. But they are licensed and legal and cruising the street.

"Only" 600+ HP usually means a built up big, big, block (572 cubic inch Chevy, etc.) with fuel injection instead of carbs and premium parts throughout - something very do-able with about $20K and lots of time. The only downside is that these tall (decked an inch), deep sump (stroker crank, lots of oil needed for cooling), heavy (all that iron), big block engines really fit only in muscle-car era engine bays such as in Novas, Torinos, and Malibus, etc., or in trucks. Put a SCr on one and you have 800-900+ RWHP (and without stability and traction control, and with very old-fashioned brakes, a real nightmare to control).

My 'vette is quite powerful for a car that drives and behaves completely like stock, but it is not in the same league with cars like these. The Camaro is sort of in between (in power), belonging in the later category as far as rough edges and all goes, but down about 200+ HP from what it really takes for respect at the top end of "street-strip" cars.

I wouldn't mind a Nova. Id leave the paint original to make it look nasty but when you drop the gas, your flying. I would only do it at teh strip of course. Drag slicks would be a good idea as well. I have not seen any Novas in a long time though. Are they that rare?

yeah Novas are true street monsters, but not really sure why you would waste the gas to run the truck even with a supercharger.....

A car that weighs only 2800 lbs with 275 to the crank should run better than 15's in the quarter...

My guess would be 14's if not even high 13's with a good driver mod...

My car ran a 15.1 weighin 3020 with me in it and only 190 @ the crank...

The 67-era Chevy SS was rated 275 HP under the then standard SAE gross HP system, a rating often jokingly called "at the brochure"because it was so overblown. It had no meaning in the real world although generally a car rated 300 HP under than system did have more power than one rated 275, etc.

The 275 Hp gross ratingcorresponds to around 200-210 flywheel in today's SAE net at the flywheel system of measurement.

Oooooh...
Gotcha...
That's more of a 14-15 second car then dependin on the driver mod...
Ya'll don't have a very active S&S section do ya'll?
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The forum used to be more active. Part of the problem is probably that there is some big internet conectivity issue on this and all the other forums driven off this same server-software set (i.e, the Porsche forum, the Camaro and Mustang forums). A big amount of postings never get posted. Not sure what the problem is or when it will be fixed. Very annoying.