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piratejosh
08-16-2008, 12:34 PM
Hey everyone, I have a few, very newb-ish, questions. I?m new to the world of Vettes
(and performance vehicles in general) and am trying to learn as I go along. I know that
it?s always best to learn from actually working on a vehicle with someone who knows what
they?re doing, but taking 24 credits a semester limits one?s free time. So most of what
I know has come from books. So, while I?m sure these questions seem rather silly, I?m
wondering if some (very patient) person could help me out.
1. I?m interested in what I think most people call retro-fitting, or putting newer parts
on an old car. I know that it?s possible to replace a carb system with a multi-point
injection system, but my understanding is that these still inject the fuel before the
fuel/air mixture pass into the combustion chamber. However, I know that the tech exists
to inject the fuel directly into the combustion chamber. Does anyone know if it?s
possible to retro-fit just such a system on an old carb system?
2. My next question is related: I?ve heard people around the forum talk about ?crossfire
injection.? What is this?
3. My third question has to do with retro-fitting as well. Is it possible to install
overhead cams (especially DOHC) in a system that currently has pushrods and rocker arms?
Thank you to whoever answers these; I appreciate your patience!

73shark
08-16-2008, 06:45 PM
Welcome to the Corvette Forum.

#1. I think what you are referring to is direct injection where the fuel is injected directly in the combustion chamber a la diesels. I've been reading recently where a few mfg are starting to do exactly that with gas engines. As to retrofitting, don't know.

#2. The Crossfire system first appeared on the '82 Corvette and consisted of two throttle body injectors on a cross ram type manifold. Was also on the '84 but was replaced in '85 w/ Tuned Port Injection.

#3. Not sure about DOHC heads for the small block but they're probably out there and if so, probably someone here knows about them.

wrwalke
08-16-2008, 08:26 PM
The LT5 is the only GM DOHC piece that I know of, though Lingenfelter did some work in that area as well. Nothing even close to the right vintage for a C3 though.

The LT5 is a work of art... :)

http://www.kitcarusa.com/articles/imagePage.php?imagesrc=800px-GMLT5.JPG

bill.

73shark
08-16-2008, 09:01 PM
Found what you're looking for: http://www.cadvision.com/blanchas/54pontiac/ChevyEngines.html

Might be hard to find any of these today.

Like Bill said, the LT5 was precision piece but about the only thing it had in common w/ the SBC was bore centers.

Texas Jim
08-16-2008, 09:21 PM
As to the question posted: an over-head cam engine is a totally different design than an over head valve. A double over head cam allows for less valve float at higher RPM due to only having to handle ie: half the load in valve weight. They are capable ofsustaining a higher rpm and over longer periods of time.

C3 Starship
08-17-2008, 01:14 PM
I have seen the DOC engines used in racing. They're real pricey though, roughly 15 to 20 Gs. Hot Rod Mag had one on the cover, many years ago.

73shark
08-17-2008, 10:11 PM
The link in my last post was the Hot Rod story and cover. Really interesting reading.

Texas Jim
08-18-2008, 08:12 AM
Shark,
Yes, that is super interesting, and in '71. Did these engines ever get competitive in the racing field? I suppose these engines would be for, at that time, Formula 1 cars or something like that. Being into most only drag racing in the early '70s, I never heard about this motor. There were three guys who I used to go to the track w/ who had competitive NHRA cars. As a high school kid, I learned alot from them.

Thanks for sharing the cool article.

piratejosh
08-18-2008, 12:39 PM
You guys are awesome! Thanks for the reading; it was very interesting. I really appreciate the help.