Pirelli tires ???
#2
11-04-2006, 09:12 PM
RE: Pirelli tires ???
Yes, quite a few thoughts. First, see the thread just a few below on changing ZO6 wheels. It came up in there that two of us had the same problems with Pirelli tires: the belts and treads loosen -- potentially very dangerous. My experience was truly frightening: I had a set on my Camaro back about three years ago. Right at 22000 miles on them, all four tires started having tread/belt separation. Luckily I carefully inspect my cars every week. When I saw the first tire with a slit in the sidewall (belt separation of about 1/16th inch) I thought the sidewall had been cut or something - there was an actual split, but then I found the second tire. I replaced those two that day, only to have the other two go bad the following week. I dfo have to admit, it was uncanny how all four went bad within a three week period.
And, as the other thread will confirm, I am not the only one.
I prefer BF Goodrich, but there are many other good brands. But I would stay away from Pirellis.
And, as the other thread will confirm, I am not the only one.
I prefer BF Goodrich, but there are many other good brands. But I would stay away from Pirellis.
#3
11-04-2006, 09:47 PM
RE: Pirelli tires ???
Lee,
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with Pirelli tires. Actually, they are the tires that were on the vette when I bought it. I am ashamed to say, it is just now that I got around to looking at the brand. To the uneducated eye (mine), they look like great tires. They are comparatively new, so besides making sure they are not under/over inflated, I haven't really looked at them more closely until now. It is pretty dark in my garage, so even with my reading glasses on the info on the tire is hard to see. I will be sure to keep a weekly check on them and will replace them w/BFG's at the first sign of a problem. I was reading a post regarding road noise that got me wondering about my tires. I am so grateful for this Forum and kind people like you whom take the time to share their knowledge.
With sincere thanks.
RJ
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with Pirelli tires. Actually, they are the tires that were on the vette when I bought it. I am ashamed to say, it is just now that I got around to looking at the brand. To the uneducated eye (mine), they look like great tires. They are comparatively new, so besides making sure they are not under/over inflated, I haven't really looked at them more closely until now. It is pretty dark in my garage, so even with my reading glasses on the info on the tire is hard to see. I will be sure to keep a weekly check on them and will replace them w/BFG's at the first sign of a problem. I was reading a post regarding road noise that got me wondering about my tires. I am so grateful for this Forum and kind people like you whom take the time to share their knowledge.
With sincere thanks.
RJ
#4
11-04-2006, 10:17 PM
RE: Pirelli tires ???
Hi Rita
it's funny you brought that up now. I was the other one that responded with Lee regarding the Prelli's in the other post.
I had a set of Pirellis on a camaro quite a few years ago, Man nice looking tires but they didn't last worth S***. I was really disappointed with them, and like Lee said the tread started seperating. About 16,000 miles on mine. I didn't drive the car much, and when I took it back thats the excuse they tried to use, that I didn't drive the car much.
Well that was the last set I bought and will ever buy. I can't speak for how they are now but Lee had the same trouble just about 3 years ago, so something is going on with these tires.
just my 2 cents of course, wish I could say better things about them.
it's funny you brought that up now. I was the other one that responded with Lee regarding the Prelli's in the other post.
I had a set of Pirellis on a camaro quite a few years ago, Man nice looking tires but they didn't last worth S***. I was really disappointed with them, and like Lee said the tread started seperating. About 16,000 miles on mine. I didn't drive the car much, and when I took it back thats the excuse they tried to use, that I didn't drive the car much.
Well that was the last set I bought and will ever buy. I can't speak for how they are now but Lee had the same trouble just about 3 years ago, so something is going on with these tires.
just my 2 cents of course, wish I could say better things about them.
#5
11-04-2006, 10:27 PM
RE: Pirelli tires ???
NUMBER 1: Goodyear GSD3: "As an all-around performance tire, you can't beat this Goodyear. It was the best performer in all three wet-track tests and was very competent in the dry. It generated .94g on the dry skidpad, only .01g off the first place (dry) BFGoodrich and tied with the Yokohama and Hankook.
The Goodyear gripped so well, that you might not have been certain that the road was wet. It held onto the wet track with .82g of stick, an impressive figure considering the worst tire in that test made only .67g.
...And like the Continental, the Goodyear had a high 280 trad-wear grade. At $145, ieach, it's $34 cheaper than the most expensive (guess which tires have THAT distinction!).
2nd place: Continental ContiSportContact 2: "It simply didn't feel as sporty as the others.....on dry surfaces, the Conti never rose above third from last among 11 tires. It felt soft and imprecise. But in the wet, the spread from best to worse was 15 percent, which made for a larger point spread (giving the Contis a boost). Plus the Continental had a 280tread-wear grade that was the highest (tied) for this test.
3rd place: Yokohama Advan Neova AD07: Excellent dry performance, but a bit on the slippery end in the wet stuff - expensive at $175 apiece.
4th place: Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: "At $179, the PS2 is the most expensive tire in the test." Competent, but expensive sums up this tire.
5th place: Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212: At $99 each, these are the least expensive tires - very good on dry pavement, but "greasy and slow to recover" on the wet stuff.
6th place: Dunlop SP Sport Max: "In the dry, the tire seemed to lose its confidence..."
7th place: Pirelli P Zero Rosso Asimmetrico:"In the dry-lateral-grip test, the Pirelli tied for second to last, and it finished seventh in the dry-braking test.
8th place: Toyo Proxes T1R: "...the Proxes never placed higher than eighth in any test"...nuff said!
9th place: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A: "it felt dull and disconnected and was somewhat soft and imprecise when driven hard."
10th place: BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD: Outstanding performance on dry surfaces, but very scary on wet surfaces - don't get caught in a rainstorm wearing these shoes...
11th place: Kumho Ecsta MX: "They didn't offer much grip and the time of 30.28 seconds in the dry autocross was .62 second slower than the fastest tire. That may not seem like much, but our course was only 0.3 mille long, and on a longer track, that gap would be commensurately greater." "And although the MX - at $136 per - was the third-least-expensive tire in our test, the high score in the price category wasn't enough to regain ground lost in the performance tests."
On a congratulatory note, the first place tire is made right here in the USA by an American tire company :flag: :cheers:
The Goodyear gripped so well, that you might not have been certain that the road was wet. It held onto the wet track with .82g of stick, an impressive figure considering the worst tire in that test made only .67g.
...And like the Continental, the Goodyear had a high 280 trad-wear grade. At $145, ieach, it's $34 cheaper than the most expensive (guess which tires have THAT distinction!).
2nd place: Continental ContiSportContact 2: "It simply didn't feel as sporty as the others.....on dry surfaces, the Conti never rose above third from last among 11 tires. It felt soft and imprecise. But in the wet, the spread from best to worse was 15 percent, which made for a larger point spread (giving the Contis a boost). Plus the Continental had a 280tread-wear grade that was the highest (tied) for this test.
3rd place: Yokohama Advan Neova AD07: Excellent dry performance, but a bit on the slippery end in the wet stuff - expensive at $175 apiece.
4th place: Michelin Pilot Sport PS2: "At $179, the PS2 is the most expensive tire in the test." Competent, but expensive sums up this tire.
5th place: Hankook Ventus R-S2 Z212: At $99 each, these are the least expensive tires - very good on dry pavement, but "greasy and slow to recover" on the wet stuff.
6th place: Dunlop SP Sport Max: "In the dry, the tire seemed to lose its confidence..."
7th place: Pirelli P Zero Rosso Asimmetrico:"In the dry-lateral-grip test, the Pirelli tied for second to last, and it finished seventh in the dry-braking test.
8th place: Toyo Proxes T1R: "...the Proxes never placed higher than eighth in any test"...nuff said!
9th place: Bridgestone Potenza RE050A: "it felt dull and disconnected and was somewhat soft and imprecise when driven hard."
10th place: BFGoodrich g-Force T/A KD: Outstanding performance on dry surfaces, but very scary on wet surfaces - don't get caught in a rainstorm wearing these shoes...
11th place: Kumho Ecsta MX: "They didn't offer much grip and the time of 30.28 seconds in the dry autocross was .62 second slower than the fastest tire. That may not seem like much, but our course was only 0.3 mille long, and on a longer track, that gap would be commensurately greater." "And although the MX - at $136 per - was the third-least-expensive tire in our test, the high score in the price category wasn't enough to regain ground lost in the performance tests."
On a congratulatory note, the first place tire is made right here in the USA by an American tire company :flag: :cheers:
#6
11-05-2006, 12:10 AM
RE: Pirelli tires ???
ORIGINAL: gorichb
Well that was the last set I bought and will ever buy. I can't speak for how they are now but Lee had the same trouble just about 3 years ago, so something is going on with these tires.
just my 2 cents of course, wish I could say better things about them.
Well that was the last set I bought and will ever buy. I can't speak for how they are now but Lee had the same trouble just about 3 years ago, so something is going on with these tires.
just my 2 cents of course, wish I could say better things about them.
Thanks so much for your input. It is highly valued and greatly appreciated. As I said in my reply to Lee, these tires were on my vette when I bought it. I will keep a close watch on them and will replace them with GSD3 tires, per Dave's recommendation.
Dave,
BIG thanks for taking the time to provide so much info. I just can't thank you enough. You can be sure I will be keeping a close eye on the Pirellis and will be replacing them with GSD3 tires.
I'm sure the previous owner thought he was putting on the best tire possible and to me they looked great, but thanks to you all, now I know better.
Again my sincere thanks to you all.
Take care, stay safe.
Rita
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